After doing a small grape painting in Feb. I searched through my own references for another one of grapevines. I took the reference photo for this in Provence in October. It was the only time I saw grapes on the vine there since the harvest had passed. This is 11 x 15. I did a demo of it that is posted on WetCanvas if you would like to see it. I also explained some of the problems I had doing this one.